Brand | ATN |
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Color | 640x480, 4-40x |
Style | 4-40x |
Sport | Hunting |
Item Weight | 2.35 Pounds |
Material | Aluminum |
Magnification Maximum | 25 x |
Objective Lens Diameter | 30 Millimeters |
Magnification Minimum | 4 x |
Compatible Devices | Handgun |
Mounting Type | Cantilever Mount |
Night vision | No |
Eye Relief | 3 Inches |
Item Package Dimensions L x W x H | 16.73 x 7.48 x 3.62 inches |
Package Weight | 2.06 Kilograms |
Item Dimensions LxWxH | 17 x 8 x 5 inches |
Brand Name | ATN |
Warranty Description | See manufacturer |
Model Name | TIWST4644A |
Suggested Users | unisex-adult |
Number of Items | 4 |
Manufacturer | ATN Corporation |
Part Number | TIWST4644A |
Included Components | ThOR 4 HD Thermal Rifle Scope 4-40x, 640x480 with HD Video Recording, Wi-Fi, GPS, Smooth Zoom |
Size | 4-40x |
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Brand | ATN |
Color | 640x480, 4-40x |
Style | 4-40x |
Sport | Hunting |
Item Weight | 2.35 Pounds |
Material | Aluminum |
Magnification Maximum | 25 x |
Objective Lens Diameter | 30 Millimeters |
Magnification Minimum | 4 x |
Compatible Devices | Handgun |
About this item
- Ultra Sensitive Next Gen Sensor - Is capable of capturing crisp clear images at the furthest ranges with improved resolution, higher sensitivity, and smooth gradations even in total darkness
- Ballistic Calculator - Hunt responsibly by making sure your shot hits the target Each and Every time
- Range, Wind, Multiple-Weapon Profile, Angle to target, Temperature, Humidity, Plus more. Helps you determine exact ballistics for expert long-range shot
- Dual Stream Video Recording - You asked and we listened ThOR 4 not only Streams Video to your mobile device at HD resolution and can simultaneously Record to the SD card inside
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From the manufacturer
ATN ThOR 4 Smart HD Thermal Hunting Scope
The Next Generation of Thermal Sensors are here and they are Powered by ATN’s Obsidian IV Dual core. Higher thermal sensitivity, improved contrasts, near silent shutter, and improved resolution make the new ATN ThOR 4 Smart Thermal Riflescope the sight to own. Easy to use and quick to learn but with all the features that you have come to expect from an ATN Smart scope.
The ThOR 4 looks and feels just like your more traditional optic. Standard mounting rings. Long eye-relief. Easy to pick up Thermal signature of hidden targets and fast viewing. Yet underneath the hood its pure power. Try it - you won’t regret the experience.
ATN Smart Features & Accessories
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ATN ABL Laser Range FinderHelps you to determine longer distance targets, sending the data to the ballistics calculator via Bluetooth to make all POI adjustments for your reticle. |
ATN Quick Detach MountIs a great addition for your ThOR 4. Take advantage of the profile manager of your scope, move it from platform to platform and still retain zero. |
ATN Battery Pack KitATN Battery Pack has 22 hrs of continuous use and allows you to use all features of the device without changing batteries. Easy to recharge and can power other devices. |
ATN X-Trac Remote ControlATN X-Trac Tactical Remote Access Control System provides control over various features of your ATN Smart device such as Ballistic Calculator, Rangefinder, etc. |
TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS
Sensor | Gen 4 384x288, 60Hz; Gen 4 640x480, 60Hz |
Magnification | 384 1.25-5x; 384 2-8x; 384 4.5-18x; 384 7-28x; 640 1-10x; 640 1.5-15x; 640 2.5-25x; 640 4-40x |
Field of view, degrees | 16x12.5; 12x9.5; 6x4.7; 5x3.8; 32x25; 24x19; 12.5x9.7; 8.3x6.2 |
Core | ATN Obsidian IV Dual Core T |
Micro Display | 1280x720 HD Display |
Eye relief | 90 mm |
Video Record Resolution | 1280x960 @ 60 fps |
Ballistic Calculator | Yes |
Wi-Fi (Streaming, Gallery) | iOS & Android |
Bluetooth | Yes |
Smart Range Finder | Yes |
RAV (Recoil Activated Video) | Yes |
Smooth Zoom | Yes |
Reticles | Multiple Patterns & Color Options |
Micro SD card | 4 to 64 Gb |
Mount | 30 mm Standard Rings (included) |
ATN ThOR 4 | ATN ThOR LT | ATN X-Sight 4K Pro | ATN X-Sight LTV | ATN TICO LT | |
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Capabilities | Smart Scope | Light Scope | Smart Scope | Light Scope | Clip-On Scope |
Type | Thermal | Thermal | Day/Night | Day/Night | Thermal |
Sensor | Gen4 384/640 60Hz | 160 or 320 60Hz | Ultra HD (3864x2218) | QHD+ (2688x1944) | 160 or 320 60Hz |
Battery | 18+ | 10+ | 18+ | 10+ | 9+ |
Video | ✓ | No | ✓ | ✓ | No |
Ballistics | ✓ | No | ✓ | No | No |
LRF Ready | ✓ | No | ✓ | No | No |
Streaming | ✓ | No | ✓ | No | No |
Mil Dot | ✓ | No | ✓ | No | No |
WiFi/Bluetooth | ✓ | No | ✓ | No | No |
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Additional Information
ASIN | B079K1DCVB |
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Customer Reviews |
3.8 out of 5 stars |
Best Sellers Rank | #73,093 in Sports & Outdoors (See Top 100 in Sports & Outdoors) #194 in Rifle Scopes |
Date First Available | February 9, 2018 |
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Customers like the value and ease of use of the aiming scope sight. For example, they mention it's the best thermal optic in this price range, the instructions are easy to follow, and it'll navigate through the menus easily. That said, some complain about the shut off issues. Opinions are mixed on the quality, performance, clarity, and software update.
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Customers like the value of the aiming scope sight. They say it's the best thermal optic in this price range, and an excellent thermal sight for budget conscious people. They also say the thermal imaging is outstanding, and it can pick up heat from a great distance away. Overall, customers find the product to be well worth the time, effort, and money.
"...We decided to go with ATN Thor series because the price is unbeatable for the quality of the ATN products...." Read more
"...Good thermal scopes are not cheap, and I wanted to make sure that I didn't make a purchase that I would regret...." Read more
"...So all in all, this is a low-end, but high-featured thermal scope. I don't really care to use most of the features, but they are there...." Read more
"...dead pixel areas on the thermal sensor - an unacceptable amount for glass this expensive...." Read more
Customers find the aiming scope sight easy to use. They say the instructions are easy to follow, the range finding is simple, and the scope works well. They also say the menus are easy navigate through and intuitive with ranging. Customers also mention that the reticle is clear and easy to set.
"...The interface is easy to use and very intuitive with ranging, built in ballistics, etc...." Read more
"...I also added an ABL for auto range finding, which was simple and easy to configure, connect and zero in...." Read more
"Pros:Packaging and delivery was outstanding and the setup was an ease...." Read more
"...The white/black hot settings are turning out to be the easiest to use. The iron hot and other rainbow settings are ok. Not bad but not great...." Read more
Customers like the battery life of the aiming scope sight. They say it has a super battery life, and can operate for 18+ hours.
"...The battery lasted several hours each night on a single charge and It was still 1/2 charged after my two hunts...." Read more
"...The battery life is fantastic. I don't use recoil activated video or streaming, which I assume would consume more battery power...." Read more
"...The battery life is incredible, I've maybe charged it twice and have hunted all night multiple times.. the only negative I really have is is that..." Read more
"...Overall it's a good scope and it has a GREAT battery life and the mounts that comes with it are good as well...." Read more
Customers are mixed about the quality of the aiming scope sight. Some mention that it's very cool, outstanding, and has top notch features. However, others say that it is incredibly unreliable, has issues, and freezes up requiring a hard reset.
"...exactly what you seen through the scope and it also gives you access to the settings and gallery without actually being on the scope looking through..." Read more
"...Detach Mount for 30mm Scope Tube" one-piece mount is of similarly poor quality, and doesn't hold zero on anything with even a moderate amount of..." Read more
"...The scope looks and feel of quality but I have to return as I would prefer the higher magnification...." Read more
"...The scope on its own 7 out of 5 stars.The scope is off the charts. Great, some accessories don't work, Bluetooth, others...." Read more
Customers are mixed about the performance of the aiming scope sight. Some mention that it works well, has very few minor issues with functionality, and works fine right out of the box. However, others say that the zoom feature did not work much of the time, the image was not that great, and it became completely unusable. Some customers also mention that some accessories don't work.
"...Comes with 3 scope rings, worked perfect on my picatinny rails. Two vertical and one extended.Cons:..." Read more
"...but the 64gb card did not work either...." Read more
"...- Mine shipped with the most up to date software and is working fine right out of box. I will update later after I have used more...." Read more
"...It became completely unusable...." Read more
Customers are mixed about the clarity of the aiming scope sight. Some mention that it keeps a pretty clear picture up to 10x, while others say that it starts to get very pixelated. The picture quality and refresh rate is good for a scope at this price point. However, some customers say that the picture quality is horrifically bad, and the longer it stayed on the longer the picture got grainier.
"...Pros: Viewing from the Obsidian 4 app made it easy for others to view what I was watching...." Read more
"...- the rest has to be specifically enabled in software, and is exceptionally pixelated - the resulting image at 25x is unusable as far as..." Read more
"...a pig, cow, or deer until I get to about 150 yards.. it's pretty easy to sight in, however I suggest watching a video on YouTube about it before you..." Read more
"...After about 200 rounds of .308 180 grain Winchester, the scope began displaying double vision and would not reset. It became completely unusable...." Read more
Customers are mixed about the software update. Some mention that it's easy to do and sent as needed, while others say that they are unable to update the firmware or record images. Some customers also mention that the unit is prone to screen freezing and requires constant firmware updates to fix continuous problems.
"...When I purchased a Thor 4 HD Thermal scope, it required a firmware update...." Read more
"...Two vertical and one extended.Cons:Could not get the firmware to upgrade. Tried with several SD cards and still no luck...." Read more
"...Overall very satisfied w/ product. ATN appears to release firmware updates frequently, which is a good sign...." Read more
"...Prone to screen freezing, constant firmware updates to fix continuous problems...." Read more
Customers are dissatisfied with the shut off of the aiming scope sight. They mention that it turns off by itself and does not come back on. Some customers also report that the battery is low and the scope never turns on even after charging. The picture gets very dark and the unit does not reboot after shutting down.
"...grain Winchester, the scope began displaying double vision and would not reset. It became completely unusable...." Read more
"...walk in 2 miles boom scope shuts down (was 75% charged) now scope won't turn on and had to walk 2 miles in pitch black with a scope that cost around..." Read more
"...It worked great for a week then it was dead. Right after my last hunt I turned off the scope to store it away...." Read more
"...Would not turn back on. Next day it came back on so I went to sight it in. Took first shot and it turned off and at that point I was done...." Read more
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Been using a Pulsar Thermion XP50 for several months now. The Thermion series doesn't have laser rangefinder capabilities, though Pulsar makes bulkier thermal scopes that do.
The XP50 definitely feels like a quality product in comparison. Getting solid digital zeros out to 300 yards with a 9" SBR in .300 BLK running supersonics that it likes.
ORIGINAL REVIEW:
Context: I've used a lot of optics at varying price points.
This Thor 4 640 2.5-25x is among the most expensive.
A week later, the price dropped by almost a thousand dollars, likely due to some of the issues detailed below.
Got the scope on 1/25/2019.
Hardware/Fitment/Accessories: 1.5/5
Underwhelmed by the NcStar-feeling metal and poor fitment of parts. Aluminum tube quality feels sub-par for a $40 Simmons .22 scope
There is a significant gap between the top plastic cover housing the buttons and the electronics of the scope - I doubt it would survive anything other than dry weather, but don't want to try and find out due to the cost.
The USB-C port and MicroSD slots are significantly out of alignment with the holes cut for them, and are mounted deeper than they should be for usability.
-This causes only certain USB-C cables to be able to charge the unit, and generally requires that cables be bent/damaged in order to fit deep enough into the port to initiate a charge.
-Extremely difficult to insert or remove the MicroSD card. The memory slot is smaller than the fitment gap beneath it. Removing a card requires the use of tweezers until you enlarge the surrounding plastic with a nail file to expose more of the MicroSD port. The rubber gasket providing alleged weather resistance will not fully seat when a memory card is installed in the unit.
My example has multiple dead pixel areas on the thermal sensor - an unacceptable amount for glass this expensive.
The magnification levels are a half-truth(at best) - the maximum standard magnification is actually 10x (not 25x) - the rest has to be specifically enabled in software, and is exceptionally pixelated - the resulting image at 25x is unusable as far as quality.
The "ATN Auxiliary Ballistic Rangefinder 1500" accessory has a very clunky and unreliable mechanism for mounting onto the scope. The first ABL I got came with the front plastic plate cracked, and something rattling internally. It is of similarly poor construction. Will write a separate review for this.
The scope cover that comes with the unit cannot be used if you opt for the the ATN ABL1500 companion rangefinder accessory - I've found no larger case from ATN available for this scope configuration, and no lens covers or other accessories that would offer in-transport protection to this incredibly expensive piece of glass.
This scope also does not come with a QD mounting solution. Presumably, most shooters can't afford to get one of these scopes for each of their rifles, so this seems like an obvious thing to include at this price point. The scope even has functionality to store multiple ballistic profiles for this exact purpose!
Unfortunately, the vast majority of one-piece QD scope mounts will not fit this scope due to the space between the rings that the electronics box requires. The purpose-built (and $100 extra) "ATN Quick Detach Mount for 30mm Scope Tube" one-piece mount is of similarly poor quality, and doesn't hold zero on anything with even a moderate amount of recoil. Will write a separate review for this as well.
Software/App: 0/5
As of this review, 3.3.04.330 is the latest firmware available.
The scope crashes semi-frequently before even firing the rifle that it is attached to.
Recoil Activated Video functionality/detection didn't activate recording upon repeated shots on a suppressed .300BLK SBR
The companion app is useless - on most phones/tablets, the application doesn't detect the scope. On the devices that do occasionally detect the connected scope, there's effectively nothing functional in the app.
According to reviews, the feature to get a live view from the scope was disabled in a prior app update because it crashed the scope.
Attempting to change the default WiFi SSID or password in the app breaks all connectivity and results in a corrupt network name ("_unknown>" SSID), requiring factory reset of the scope to make it operational again.
Downloading pictures or videos from the scope via the app usually throws an error, and crashes the app and/or scope - hence the need to remove the microsd card from the slot every single time.
This Android companion app is currently rated two stars on the Google Play store. It really doesn't deserve such a high rating, as it accomplishes the rare feat of providing ABSOLUTELY NO FUNCTIONAL FEATURES worth mentioning at this time. (Obsidian 4 - version 1.23)
Customer Service: ?/5
Attempted to contact ATN about some of these issues upon receipt of the scope and accessories, and haven't heard back.
Overall: 1/5
Total cost for the scope, the ABL, and the QD mount was $5106.27
My example of this system is wholly unacceptable in multiple ways. Will refund unit with Amazon. Hopefully, the software/app experience is improved in the coming months/years, but I'm not especially optimistic.
Intending to wait for the next generation of thermal scopes from other brands in the coming months.
Reviewed in the United States on February 5, 2019
Been using a Pulsar Thermion XP50 for several months now. The Thermion series doesn't have laser rangefinder capabilities, though Pulsar makes bulkier thermal scopes that do.
The XP50 definitely feels like a quality product in comparison. Getting solid digital zeros out to 300 yards with a 9" SBR in .300 BLK running supersonics that it likes.
ORIGINAL REVIEW:
Context: I've used a lot of optics at varying price points.
This Thor 4 640 2.5-25x is among the most expensive.
A week later, the price dropped by almost a thousand dollars, likely due to some of the issues detailed below.
Got the scope on 1/25/2019.
Hardware/Fitment/Accessories: 1.5/5
Underwhelmed by the NcStar-feeling metal and poor fitment of parts. Aluminum tube quality feels sub-par for a $40 Simmons .22 scope
There is a significant gap between the top plastic cover housing the buttons and the electronics of the scope - I doubt it would survive anything other than dry weather, but don't want to try and find out due to the cost.
The USB-C port and MicroSD slots are significantly out of alignment with the holes cut for them, and are mounted deeper than they should be for usability.
-This causes only certain USB-C cables to be able to charge the unit, and generally requires that cables be bent/damaged in order to fit deep enough into the port to initiate a charge.
-Extremely difficult to insert or remove the MicroSD card. The memory slot is smaller than the fitment gap beneath it. Removing a card requires the use of tweezers until you enlarge the surrounding plastic with a nail file to expose more of the MicroSD port. The rubber gasket providing alleged weather resistance will not fully seat when a memory card is installed in the unit.
My example has multiple dead pixel areas on the thermal sensor - an unacceptable amount for glass this expensive.
The magnification levels are a half-truth(at best) - the maximum standard magnification is actually 10x (not 25x) - the rest has to be specifically enabled in software, and is exceptionally pixelated - the resulting image at 25x is unusable as far as quality.
The "ATN Auxiliary Ballistic Rangefinder 1500" accessory has a very clunky and unreliable mechanism for mounting onto the scope. The first ABL I got came with the front plastic plate cracked, and something rattling internally. It is of similarly poor construction. Will write a separate review for this.
The scope cover that comes with the unit cannot be used if you opt for the the ATN ABL1500 companion rangefinder accessory - I've found no larger case from ATN available for this scope configuration, and no lens covers or other accessories that would offer in-transport protection to this incredibly expensive piece of glass.
This scope also does not come with a QD mounting solution. Presumably, most shooters can't afford to get one of these scopes for each of their rifles, so this seems like an obvious thing to include at this price point. The scope even has functionality to store multiple ballistic profiles for this exact purpose!
Unfortunately, the vast majority of one-piece QD scope mounts will not fit this scope due to the space between the rings that the electronics box requires. The purpose-built (and $100 extra) "ATN Quick Detach Mount for 30mm Scope Tube" one-piece mount is of similarly poor quality, and doesn't hold zero on anything with even a moderate amount of recoil. Will write a separate review for this as well.
Software/App: 0/5
As of this review, 3.3.04.330 is the latest firmware available.
The scope crashes semi-frequently before even firing the rifle that it is attached to.
Recoil Activated Video functionality/detection didn't activate recording upon repeated shots on a suppressed .300BLK SBR
The companion app is useless - on most phones/tablets, the application doesn't detect the scope. On the devices that do occasionally detect the connected scope, there's effectively nothing functional in the app.
According to reviews, the feature to get a live view from the scope was disabled in a prior app update because it crashed the scope.
Attempting to change the default WiFi SSID or password in the app breaks all connectivity and results in a corrupt network name ("_unknown>" SSID), requiring factory reset of the scope to make it operational again.
Downloading pictures or videos from the scope via the app usually throws an error, and crashes the app and/or scope - hence the need to remove the microsd card from the slot every single time.
This Android companion app is currently rated two stars on the Google Play store. It really doesn't deserve such a high rating, as it accomplishes the rare feat of providing ABSOLUTELY NO FUNCTIONAL FEATURES worth mentioning at this time. (Obsidian 4 - version 1.23)
Customer Service: ?/5
Attempted to contact ATN about some of these issues upon receipt of the scope and accessories, and haven't heard back.
Overall: 1/5
Total cost for the scope, the ABL, and the QD mount was $5106.27
My example of this system is wholly unacceptable in multiple ways. Will refund unit with Amazon. Hopefully, the software/app experience is improved in the coming months/years, but I'm not especially optimistic.
Intending to wait for the next generation of thermal scopes from other brands in the coming months.
When I purchased a Thor 4 HD Thermal scope, it required a firmware update. It behaved exactly like the instructions and videos said that it would, and I had no problems at all. I zero'd the scope and that process was as simple as they claimed it would be. Once it was dialed in, it has been a pure source of joy and satisfaction.
The videos that are produced from the scope are easily exported via wi-fi to your mobile app. This makes it super easy to post or share with your friends, providing a super unique way to share your thrills and provide some excitement directly with your friends.
I also added an ABL for auto range finding, which was simple and easy to configure, connect and zero in. Everything worked according to plan.
I have since bought a second one so that I can share the same fun experience with a buddy while we venture out together. I would NEVER have bought a second if I didn't believe in the product, the company, and their great support.
The only negative I experienced is that the first scope locked up on me - because I did NOT follow their directions to update the firmware immediately. Once I did what I was told, it solved the issue and it never happened again. All Good!